Varmint Hunter
I bought Martin over PSE. It just felt better in my hand for the same price. No complaints

Cody Bostetter
I myself love the bear bows. I bought an element a few years back after shooting my martin for so long, that bear felt better, and very well balanced more durable and the ibo speed is pretty good. Though if you are thinking about a bear carnage it is not a good first bow because the draw back is insane. Believe me I just bought one for this deer season and its going to take some getting use to. Overall both brands are excellent but if you want a bow that is going to last a very long time there is no better bow if your serious about bow hunting than a hoyt.