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What size ventilation grilles do I need to be up to National Fuel Gas Code?
I can not find this info anywhere on the web for free. Everyone wants you to "Buy the book". I don't want to. Here it is. My type fuel is LP Gas. 67,200 Btu/Hr is the maximum the space can support. 76,000 Btu/Hr is the actual amount of Btu/Hr used.I would never actually use that much though, because that would be considering that I had my oven and all 4 burners on AND my vent-free fireplace going all at the same time. However, those are the actual figures just in case I did. I don't know what other information you might need, but I just don't want to pay $35 bucks for that one time piece of info. (Know what I mean?) I got this information from a work sheet that came with my vent-free fireplace, but it says "Follow the National Fuel Gas Code, ANSI Z223.1/NFPA 54, Section 5.3, Air for combustion and ventilation for the required size of ventilation grills or ducts" I know I need 2 vents- 1 within 12 " of the ceiling and the other within 12" of the floor. I just need to know what size. :) Well, Quite simply, I want to know what size fresh air grills/vents-ie; (4"x8"--6"x12"-12"x12" etc; etc.) do I need to install in the room { for fresh outside air or air from an adjoining room} for fresh air ventilation, since I just installed a new vent-free fireplace. I'm just a do it your selfer but, as you can see from my figures above, the Btu/Hr used is more than the maximum Btu/Hr the space ( the room) can support. In other words without EXTRA ventilation, the gas appliances would burn up all the oxygen in the room and then they would go out and I would probably suffocate. Is that a little clearer now? The National Fuel Gas Code actually have (REQUIRED) grill sizes. If anyone knows about this requirement then they should be able to figure it out for me. Thanks again! P.S. The room size is 14' wide x 32' long x 8' high (If that might help)

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myothernewname
After reading that, I still have no clue what you want to know 23 years HVAC

Leo C
If I get the question right, you have a vent free LP heater. In my part of the country we are now using the International Gas Fuel Code(Colo) using the numbers you provided you will have to size this for the max BTU of the heater, weather you use it all or not. you will need 7,600 cubic feet of combustion air, with the consideration that your dwelling is of normal construction, in other words not a super tight where air can leak into your building to replenish the bad air being used. your room size is 14X32X8=3,584 cubic feet, which means you need to make up another 4,016 feet of air. you need to have your grills sized 1 square inch per 1000 BTU so your grill size would be 2X2 inches, but the code book states that no grill size shall be less then 100 square inches, which is a 10X10 grill. The basic math for this, in case I made a mistake is for every 1000BTU you need 100 cubic feet of air fresh air grills sized at 1 square inch per 1000 BTU good luck with this, even in the business this is complicated and easy to get the numbers mixed up also as a disclaimer, CYA-- always check your local or regional codes, as they supersede everything else. To find out exactly what the requirements for your area is you can always call and talk to the inspectors or the codes division in you area.

KennyJ
Just confirming I agree with Leo C. You will need a Min. 100 sq inch grill for both combustion grill down Low on side wall and 1dilution grill high for make up air on high side wall. this means you really need a minimum total of 200 square inches. If you do not want to check your local codes use a louvered door to CYA.

dawg_30741
I agree with Leo, when ordering grill order size by free space.




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